Friday, March 04, 2005

the fat whore talks back

The response to the cervix pics the other day were very positive (surprise, you guys like cunt). However, there was one comment that stood out and garnered a great deal of response from other readers. Anonymous posted:

*Wow, you're very overweight for a sex worker. I would have thought that a prostitute would actually have to be attractive...no wonder life, the boys wouldn't have wanted you, otherwise. As George Carlin said, "I wouldn't fuck her with a stolen dick!!" Also, the way your pussy sticks out and folds is rather disturbing to me. I also find it odd that someone would post pictures of their genitals on the internet but refuse to show their face. You truly are a whore and deserve your genital warts and the cancer that accompanies them. I wonder how you can have the lack of conscience to still have sex with various "customers" when you must know, being a sex educator like I am, that HPV CAN be spread even with the use of a condom. Then again, your clients deserve this fate, too. *

with the clarification

*I was trying to say, "no wonder you were a wh*re early in life, the boys wouldn't have wanted you otherwise". Apparently I've been censored *

I didn't find the original comment worth responding to, however, many of you rushed to save my honor and honor my pussy. Thank you for the support. But I fear you may have gone a bit overboard as the original commenter feels attacked. She posted a defense of her remarks today.

*Thank you for all of the kind comments. I suppose that I should have expected to hear from those defenders who spoke out against me. Contrary to what you thought, Nadia, I have been reading this blog for a while. I did see the website with all of the pussy pictures on them, and I found most of them rather unattractive, especially those on the last page that were labeled "extreme". That is simply my opinion, I am not saying that others who think differently are wrong, by any means. Where do I get my opinion from? I am a woman. I am also not underage, as someone else suggested. And to whoever came up with the label of troll, I would love to know where that was derived from. I don't see how that is in context.
It is not that I think that Jane is incredibly obese, by any means. It is only that, when I picture a sex worker, I picture someone who is not overweight. From the pictures, it looks like Jane is just that. That doesn't include the picture of her in a corset, of course, as lacing someone up can greatly alter what their body looks like.
As I also mentioned before, and as Jane mentioned herself somewhere in the archives, it is possible to spread HPV with the use of a condom. That Jane would still actively sell herself while knowing that this virus can be spread to any one of her clients, and then perhaps to their unknowing partners, is what I find immoral. It is not the business that she is in itself that I dispute, but her general carelessness for the welfare of others. If these clients spread the virus to their female partners, their chances of contracting cervical cancer rise greatly. I am pretty sure that the partners of these men are, for the most part, unaware of the fact that they are paying for the services of a whore. Does no one else think that there is anything wrong with this? ANYONE??
I did not personally insult anyone in this post and would appreciate if others would have the same amount of respect for me, although I doubt that it will happen. And as for not posting my name and contact info, I get the feeling that I would get some rather unpleasant responses and would like to keep the debate on this board, not in my inbox. I also don't have a membership with this website, and do not wish to sign up for one. *

Now, here is something I can respond to. And now I will.

Thank you for your response. It is far more articulate than your original comments which seemed crass and abusive. Now that you have outlined your points and concerns, I would be more than happy to address them. I will take them in the order of your second comment, if that is alright with you.

1. The presumption that the commenter was not a regular reader. There were some assumptions in your post that have been addressed in past entries. For example, I have discussed my body and my state as a sex worker who straddles the line between the assumed skinny girl norm and the bbw (big beautiful woman) markets. I have also discussed the services I provide and do not provide (for example, I do not provide penile-vaginal, penile-oral, or penile-anal penetrative intercourse. The only condoms in my work life go on my sex toys.)

2. Pussy attractiveness. Vulvas come in a variety of shapes, sizes, and colors. People have preferences, just as they have for hair or facial features or breasts or penis size. You have a right to a negative opinion. However, as you also asked, I wonder where the opinion comes from. A preference for symmetry? A strong difference between mine and yours? I think the response questioning your exposure to vulvas was in regards to the standards of beauty being dependent upon exposure and perspective. If someone grew up in a town of white girls with blond hair and blue eyes, that would be reflected in their standard of beauty. They may find women with darker hair or eyes to be less attractive than the Nordic set. How would this person react the first time they met a woman of color with dark textured hair? Most likely in a negative manner as it is outside of their exposure. So where do your standards of pussy attractiveness originate?

3. The troll reference. "Troll" is a web term used to refer to someone who frequents a web site. I have heard it used in a neutral sense, "trolling for dates". However, it is also used to refer to someone who regularly contributes unwelcome negative comments to a community in which they are not a part (in this case by remaining anonymous you alienate yourself from the group; evening signing a pseudonym as many other "anonymous" commenters have would have been welcome). No one was implying you have wild hair and a gem stone in your navel.

4. Weight. I am not a small girl. I have never pretended to be a small girl. However, your assumption that my weight prevents my beauty and attractiveness from asserting itself is short-sighted and sad. Sex workers are people and come in a wide variety of flavors. Also, I have not always been this size (as I have also previously discussed), so my current crotch shot gives no perspective from which you could judge my adolescent slutdom (because there is a difference between a whore and a slut and this sight honors that distinction, thank you). And in regards to my lack of face shots, I have mentioned several times that my current job does not allow me to out myself in this forum (because I am not just a whore, something that can be picked up from previous entries as well as my title bar).

5. HPV and my commercial sex work. I am well aware of the means of transmission of hpv. I am also aware of the different types of hpv. HPV is spread through skin to skin contact. However, the risk of transmission of strands of hpv linked to cervical cancer (not the ones that cause warts, but thanks for those happy thoughts) is greatly reduced by the use of condoms. Some researchers even report condoms as highly effective at preventing the transmission of hpv linked to cervical cancer. But, regardless, my clients are not at risk. Nor are their partners. At least not by me. Because I don't provide full service. I don't have penile-vaginal, penile-anal, or penile-oral sex with clients. My most common activities with clients are them going down on me (low risk for hpv linked to warts, no documented cases of transmission of the cervical hpvs) and eating dinner or having drinks together (no risk of hpv transmission, there).

I hope this answers some of your questions. I would be very interested in your reply.

Sincerely,
Jane, the fat whore with the wrinkly twat who deserves warts and cancer

15 Comments:

Anonymous Heidi Slonnec said...

if your wrinkly twat is ugly, that would mean mine is too. And I think my twat is beautiful. And so is yours.

I think it's important to take pride in your twat because it is such a beautiful thing with so many great powers. My twat is a source of great physical pleasure (for me and my boyfriend) and a source of great inspiration when I have an art project due. It's there when I need it- and doesn't complain too bad when I neglect it. It's important to respect your twat and I think it's important to respect someone else's twat too. In this case, I more than respect your twat- I envy the wholy sex-positive attitude you and your twat both have. And I think you should celebrate it (Like I celebrate my twat).

3/04/2005 9:13 AM  
Blogger introspectre said...

Completely fucking eloquent, Jane.
Brilliant.
When I got to the signature I actually pounded the table and laughed heartily.

I loved the vulva link. Fascinating. I'm not sure why someone would bother to post about their dislike of it. Odd. It was clearly labeled. So the curiousity was there but not the love, eh? Unfortunate. Didn't like the weird vulvas but bothered to click all the way through to the end... And then wants to complain about it? Why not complain to all the women she knows and ask them why their vuvas are so darn weird looking? I mean, hello? Talk about weird...

Me and my crazy looking vulva would like to steer clear of the vulva hater, personally. I have enough baggage I'm trying to do away with. I don't need any implied by someone else.
Sheesh. Totally odd.

3/04/2005 11:46 AM  
Blogger Librarian Babe said...

Wow, nasty and insulting and then doesn't get why people talked back? Can we add not very bright to that list? Jesus. Can dish it out but can't take it.

Telling someone you think they deserve a disease is a nasty hateful thing. Telling someone the look of their pussy "disturbs" you is also mean and unnecessary. If you don't like it, don't look.

On the internet, a troll is usually someone who posts to forums looking to stir up trouble.

As far as what Jane does being "immoral" even if she did do full service, wouldn't the men be to blame? If they didn't go looking for whores then whores couldn't exist could they? They're the ones who've pledge monogamy.

It's fine to post conflicting opinions, but in a rational, non-attacking way. Posting hate will get you hate right back.

3/04/2005 3:48 PM  
Blogger Michael said...

Once again, Jane, you prove yourself a better person than I. In cases where this has happened in the past, I've proudly joined in telling the offender to fuck off and die. And, if it were to happen on my site, I'd do the same.

To our young friend: I'm willing to let bygones be bygones in this instance, but I advise more careful word choice in the future.

3/04/2005 3:58 PM  
Blogger Garrison Steelle said...

Jane, dear, how are you? How's life with the sprain?

Ms. Anonymous needs to learn a couple of lessons.

1. Using an anonymous comment to make negative remarks about a person or a blog, especially one's body, is offensive. I don't care to whom it occurs, when I see it happen I will respond visciously without apology. When it happens to a friend, the anger is only more intense. I would type every word again, including the troll comment.

2. If one is going to make a negative comment, at least get your facts straight. Professional sex workers are LESS likely to spread ANY STI than, oh, let's say the well-dressed professional one might randomly meet in a bar tonight. There are many more dangerous sex choices one can make than having intercourse with a professional sex worker.

My profession being what it is, I've probably seen more pussy than any non-medical professional. They are all quite varied and different. I've seen vulva that were tremendously stretched (intentionally) and others nearly paper thin. All functioned well and provided sufficient satisfaction and pleasure to their owners.

Personal opinions being the subjective beasts they are, to state PUBLICLY that ANY body part is unattractive is demeaning and inflammatory. Regardless of her intent, which I still consider questionable, her original remark was careless, insensitive, and ignorant. Such attitudes are largely responsible for the continued sexual oppression against which we so strongly fight. Against such things I will respond ferociously every cotton-picking time.

And happily sign my name.

-G

3/04/2005 4:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hello!

I came across your blog only recently and saw the photos... and, you know, as a hetero non-sex-worker woman, I'm not going to see too many vaginas. So I was delighted (delighted!) to see that your vagina closely resembles mine (with that fold), and I realized that (as a recently exed boyfriend always said), I have a BEAUTIFUL pussy. (That fold thing had troubled me.)

So, thank you for having the, erm, balls for posting those pictures.

I'm anonymous (never commented here before), cos I'm still kinda private that way.

3/05/2005 2:09 PM  
Blogger mainja said...

well, that post kicked ass.

new here, but enjoying it greatly.

3/06/2005 11:56 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm incredulous that that insensitive comment was by another sex educator. I simply refuse to believe that they make such people that stupid...wait, W's still the pResident right? Oh never mind!

In any case I've rechecked the original post (public cervix announcement) and this is what I find disturbing about the whole deal.

1.) That search light on your love button. Is that a custom job or stock?

2.) The small hand that appears to be waving from way deep inside? That's your personal minder from the DoJ, right? One of Ashcroft's guys? Tell him the party's over, they need reauthorization from AG Gonzales now.

3.) Does that come with an MP3 file? Cause I thought I heard something...

4.) Having seen plenty of variety, honey, I can tell you that you're pretty average. I frankly was expecting more. Sorry!

5.) Does it do tricks? *No*, I mean like juggling, like mine?

6.) I liked the whole line up, do we guess which celebrities contributed here? And Why not?

7.) Those plastic thingy's can I pick one up at Kroger or CVS? OK, is there a site you can direct the curious to one that sells such material?

8.) I never did figure out how you can get paid for not doing what you do. Er... you know what I mean!

9.) Educated you say? Can it do sums? See I've got this horse and we could take this act on the road... *No* the horse does a 'Clever Hans' bit, it counts too. (You dirty minded people!)

10.) Does it take long to warm up enough to do that? (Not disturbing, just a thought).--Good Luck! VJ

3/08/2005 12:24 AM  
Blogger Josh Jasper said...

You can get them here for ten bucks

3/09/2005 10:15 PM  
Anonymous SF said...

I've never heard anyone talk about vagina preference before, but you've caught my attention. I think it depends on each persons experience with that type of vagina. It's not like a guy comes into the world prefering this or that.. he gets it from the ones he knows.

Now, I can't say I prefer one type or another (can you really be sad about getting to see or even, touch a vagina?). Each one I've had the pleasure of meeting had it's own personality, good points and bad. But in the end it's never really bad.

Now you've got me reminiscing about all those wonderful cunts.

3/10/2005 10:19 PM  
Anonymous MuckyMikey said...

I don't care what anyone says, I think you (& your cunt) are GORGEOUS! ;)

3/13/2005 4:11 AM  
Anonymous Here I'll make a name said...

It's a nice Vagina, but I could have done without seeing the doctors office view of your insides.

As for your HPV - forget your sex work customers, what about the risk you're putting all the innocent people attending Jefferson's Bi-sex parties? I know more about their health risks sleeping with you, or the Kinky Librarian who has Herpes, or Dacia who has engaged in sex work, and commercial porn. Sex educators or not, you're a high risk group, and as an outsider, it's terribly dissapointing to read the STD trail via blog. You're not doing it out of ignorance, or lack of education, but out of an apparent defiance, and a disregard for your partners, not to mention their future partners (many of whom aren't consciously chosing to be part of your various lifestyles). You even put blame on the victims, be it the John's, or the partners who engage in risky behavior without checking your papers first. How is that being sex positive? How is that being an educator? How are you not stigmatizing your own STI status when you keep it a secret outside of the internet ? Think about it, and think about the attitude you and your friends are promoting. Fuck all you want, and fuck how you want - but cut the self righteous bullshit.

3/13/2005 5:36 AM  
Anonymous Here I'll make a name said...

Oops, meant to say *I know more about their health risks sleeping with all of you then THEY do.

3/13/2005 5:38 AM  
Blogger 00goddess said...

What the hell is wrong with people?

I have hard time believing that a sex educator posted that, too, unless by "sex educator" one means one of those sex-negative "save-it-for-your-husband " types.

Good response, Jane.

3/14/2005 1:25 AM  
Blogger Nik said...

Is I'll Make A Name coming to the defense of the people attending the "bi-sex party?" What risk is Jane imparting to them, you imbecile? She doesn't even DO her clients like most of us do! And even if she DID she'd be engaging in less risky behavior than your average bar hopping horn-dog... Whatever, go with God.

6/03/2005 1:25 PM  

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